Curse

Chilos · Sep 08, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

So, some speculations of that dragon who makes it's first appearance (AWESOME EYE ANIMATION BTW) in Ogden's Benediction. Is this our enemy or friend, is it ancestor of Glint or Glint itself, or is Great Destroyer back? How did it end up inside stone? But thats for sure, it looks deadly

Mod edit: 8 threads have been merged. Please keep all sightings and speculation relating to the ancient dragons in this thread from now on.

Free Runner · Sep 09, 2007, 12:51 AM // 00:51

I'm still wondering why our characters just walked away from it. I would at least question as to what it was in the first place. Even the Asura seem to take it for granted.

Its head does resemble Glint but the things rising up to it from around the room make it look like a huge version of "The Great Destroyer".Its also shown in the visions in which the camera actually pans to it making it look like the main villain (it had me fooled up till the appearence of the "real" Destroyer.

From Ogdens speech this thing doesnt sound friendly ("And the worst was yet to come...a threat that would consume the world").

Eye of the Norh made it look like everything we have faced so far is the least of our worries - the real danger is right there. Its going to be pretty interesting to see what this thing is and how it affects Tyria (or when it wakes up)

Funny that everything we do in GW1 is setting the battle up for GW2 (the revenge of the Mursaat on humans, the mass tranformation of dwarves into stone dwarves, Livias temptation and the "lets ignore the oversized evil dragon statue" thing)

mazey vorstagg · Sep 09, 2007, 06:22 AM // 06:22

Well seeing as Glint is a great, good dragon perhaps this one is her evil twin. As in, the real great destroyer.

Onarik Amrak · Sep 09, 2007, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Funnily enough, it's not the first time the heroes just walked away from something...

Remember the Sceptor of Orr? I guess we just forgot about it and it disappeared.

Mark Nevermiss · Sep 09, 2007, 02:18 PM // 14:18

I don't think these dangers are meant to be more than a general indication that its not all honey and cookies henceforth.
From the article on GW2 in PC Gamer, it seems GW2 is going to be more complex in the type of threats faced by the world, and that it wont necessarily focus on one arch-enemy, as is the case in GW1.

Free Runner · Sep 09, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Originally Posted by Mark Nevermiss

I don't think these dangers are meant to be more than a general indication that its not all honey and cookies henceforth.
From the article on GW2 in PC Gamer, it seems GW2 is going to be more complex in the type of threats faced by the world, and that it wont necessarily focus on one arch-enemy, as is the case in GW1.

Yes i would guess some things will be optional arcs but the Dragon does seem to be important. Ogdens line about it consuming the world seemed to say its gains some foothold in Tyria. It could be that this Dragon has already began conquering parts of Tyria when we start out in GW2.

Mournblade · Sep 10, 2007, 02:51 AM // 02:51

The whole other half of the planet could be under the Destroyers sway and we wouldn't know it. We need more ambitious cartographers.

Rainbird · Sep 10, 2007, 12:06 PM // 12:06

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Originally Posted by Mournblade

The whole other half of the planet could be under the Destroyers sway and we wouldn't know it. We need more ambitious cartographers.

True :P Basicly, anything could be going on in the places we don't know about

Giga Strike · Sep 10, 2007, 04:48 PM // 16:48

they really tell you very little about that dragon. could it be glint? if so then y would glint want to attack the rest of tyria in GW2? maybe its the evil daddy dragon.

themeteor · Sep 10, 2007, 05:50 PM // 17:50

I don't think it's "the real great destroyer" unless there IS in fact another expansion already in production because it undermines the whole my characters epicness, even if he did save the world 3 times already.

I'm going to guess that the dragon was somehow held back by the destroyers and we we beat the great destroyer what held back the dragon was destroyed.

I doubt that he/she/it is related to glint it just seems a little to easy to be true

Mournblade · Sep 10, 2007, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Speaking of dragons - what the heck is that spikey spiney statuey looking outcropping in the Charr homelands? It's bigger than the dragon buried in Drakkar Lake!

Free Runner · Sep 10, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53

Also the thing in Drakkar lake could be connected to the Dragon we saw awakening.....and perhaps they both awaken at the same time. The monster in the lake has demonstrated evil powers before so its alive.

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Originally Posted by Giga Strike

they really tell you very little about that dragon. could it be glint? if so then y would glint want to attack the rest of tyria in GW2? maybe its the evil daddy dragon

The Dragon itself couldnt be Glint - last i checked she wasnt turned into a statue. Also she doesnt have red eyes...she has blue ones, and the horn isnt present on her nose.

Ive not actually had time to look at the huge thing in the Charr Homelands. Is it explained anywere as to what its name is/how it came to be?

Some Guru Named Kai · Sep 11, 2007, 04:34 AM // 04:34

Aaaah! GODZILLA!!!

jkjkjk. Anywho, I am leaning more towards the idea of that dragon being the "real" Great Destroyer. Since the supposed battle between the Great Dwarf vs Great Destroyer looked more like the Great Dwarf worshippers vs Great Destroyer spawns. (Jalis Ironhammer and those destroyer monsters)

That freaky looking dragon in the final battle that we had to kill could just be a Head General / Right Hand "Lizard" / CEO? / or maybe even the son-daughter of the Great Destroyer!? And in GW2, the big dragon wants payback? The husband of Glint!? okok, I'm getting a little carried away here.

But, a lot of people are speculating that the stone dragon is somehow involved with Glint and I wouldn't disagree, Glint is a pretty big character (literally and not

) being that she's a 3,000 year old prophet and overseer of the world by the five gods. It would make great lore to continue her involvement in the lore.

mazey vorstagg · Sep 11, 2007, 05:24 AM // 05:24

Well I agree with it being the real great destroyer. If the thing we fought was then the dwarfs would have been killed at the end of EOTN as was predicted.

Eldin · Sep 11, 2007, 11:54 PM // 23:54

Glint BETTER RETURN IN GW2!

Though I doubt the dragon has relevance to Glint. That does not even LOOK like a dragon in that picture posted. Very little room for a jaw and whatnot.

ANet's prioritization of how dramatic battles are has been slipping. In ways GW:EN is supposed to be the grand closure, but I found fighting an exiled God more dramatic than a bunch of destruction-crazed whatchamahoozits.

French Connections · Sep 12, 2007, 01:58 PM // 13:58

Seeing as the end game "Great Destroyer" we defeat at the end of GWEN was so pathetic, I'm assuming it wasnt really the Great Destroyer, but merely a pawn rallying the destroyers to prepare for the Great Destroyer's (the dragon looking creature we see in the final cutscene) arrival. Furthermore, the Great Destroyer was rather small in comparison to what i was expecting when i heard it's name mentioned (i was expecting a an abadon sized monster :P).

Note: This is pure speculation on my behalf.

Chilos · Sep 13, 2007, 12:40 PM // 12:40

I found little thing about dragon from game ratings:
When I saw this, I said: Hel-lo!
''The example given is that of a dragon that’s been seen flying worryingly close in recent days - if enough players “shoo” it away with conveniently placed catapults, they’ll all be paid a reward by the local landowner. If, however, the dragon doesn’t get dealt with, it’ll go on a rampage - destroying a bridge perhaps, which will in turn trigger a team of NPCs rebuilding it and an envoy of wood sent from a nearby town. If, again, you choose to protect the cart from wood-hungry bandits, then you’ll get a reward''

Giga Strike · Sep 13, 2007, 03:43 PM // 15:43

after a little research and through discussion in another thread i've began to beleive that the dragon was dormant (perhaps being subdued by the great destroyer) and was being used for its magical energy by both the asurans (to set up the teleporter system) and by the destroyers (maybe to cause the eartquakes that freed them). It seemed to start to awaken after the great destroyer was defeated, so it must have been controlled in some way, but I still can't figure out how it was captured in the first place.

Free Runner · Sep 13, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by Chilos

I found little thing about dragon from game ratings:
When I saw this, I said: Hel-lo!
''The example given is that of a dragon that’s been seen flying worryingly close in recent days - if enough players “shoo” it away with conveniently placed catapults, they’ll all be paid a reward by the local landowner. If, however, the dragon doesn’t get dealt with, it’ll go on a rampage - destroying a bridge perhaps, which will in turn trigger a team of NPCs rebuilding it and an envoy of wood sent from a nearby town. If, again, you choose to protect the cart from wood-hungry bandits, then you’ll get a reward''

The Dragon in the last cutscene would probably raise alot more panic than a "its okay we'll just fire things at it and if worst comes to worst it will destroy a bridge" . Remember there are other dragon creatures (Saltspray Dragons ect) and by GW2 we could be looking at more Glint type Dragons.

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Originally Posted by Giga Strike

It seemed to start to awaken after the great destroyer was defeated, so it must have been controlled in some way, but I still can't figure out how it was captured in the first place.

Actually we cant really say when it started to awaken. Remember everything in the last cinematic has not happend yet since it was only Ogden telling us what will happen in the future. The Dragon could awaken about 100 years or so after Eye of the North - after our characters have died.

As to how it was captured we now have 3 creatures which look to have been sealed away (The thing in Drakkar Lake,the huge spine in the Charr Homelands and this Dragon). We could be looking at another Abaddon scenario here - these things could have been sealed by the 6 Gods or perhaps sealed by something else long before the Gods.

Giga Strike · Sep 13, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48

that charr dragon looks pretty dead to me...